Tampa Bay's Mike Williams vs. Philadelphia's Jeremy Maclin: Who Would You Rather Have?

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	Topic: Tampa Bay's Mike Williams vs. Philadelphia's Jeremy Maclin: Who Would You Rather Have?
Russ Bliss_108 Admin Membership: Starter Joined: September 04 Total Posts: 19877 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 03/19/11 12:23 The latest FFTrader.com roundtable discussion was on our preference for either Philadelphia's Jeremy Maclin or Tampa Bay's Mike Williams in either dynasty or re-draft leagues. I have already started creating a fantasy football cheat sheet at each position for 2011 and while I have both in the same Tier group (for an explanation on tiering and how it works, check out my fantasy football draft strategy article from a few years ago), I think the higher upside lies with Williams and as we go along this off-season he can start to rise up the rankings. I have already posted an article listing each of the roundtables participant's thoughts on the Williams vs. Maclin debate but here I present my exact submission: "In 2010 I had Mike Williams pegged right after the draft as the guy I thought would step up and be a surprise in 2010 as he was going to a great situation and had the makeup to be a #1 WR, but fell in the draft due to off-field issues. A 1st round talent who slid to become a 4th round steal for Tampa Bay was probably a humbling experience for him personally and provided him with extra motivation to correct flaws in his character. And he did. 65 receptions for 964 yards, and 11 TD's as a rookie were beyond all optimistic expectation. And he did it despite opponents knowing he was going to be the top WR in Tampa Bay as no other Buccaneers WR had more than 25 receptions for the entire season. No other Bucs WR had more than 39 pass targets. It's hoped that Arrelious Benn will be healthy for the start of the 2011 season, and if not I think they found a gem in Dezmon Briscoe (a 6th round pick of Cincinnati in 2010 that the Bucs signed when the Bengals cut him before the season started). One of those two will likely step in as the #2 WR opposite Williams and provide him with some help challenging opposing secondaries. Williams is a star on the rise. Meanwhile, to start 2010 I had Jeremy Maclin ranked in my top 20 WR's, primed for a breakout. He fell a bit short in the projected yards, but exceeded TD predictions. In fact, his 2010 stat line was nearly identical to Williams. Maclin caught 70 passes for 964 yards, and 10 TD's. But unlike Williams, Maclin had a 2 other WR's who commanded attention. One was DeSean Jackson, the other Jason Avant. Jackson, although he only caught 47 passes, is considered to be the explosive #1 WR and it bears noting that he missed 2 games and in the final targets for the entire season, only had 20 fewer passes intended for him than Maclin. They pretty much were split evenly in the amount of passes thrown to each when Jackson was healthy. Maclin has the size and speed to be a #1 WR, but in Philadelphia he appears as one of several great weapons the Eagles have, and that limits his upside since there is so much competition for targets. When all is said and done, I think Maclin is a solid WR2 in fantasy, and will be for years to come. He has the chance to become a WR1. But the opportunities for him are fewer because of the other playmaking weapons in Philadelphia. Williams is also a solid WR2 in fantasy, but I think he has a greater chance to become a WR1 as he has already established himself as the top playmaking weapon for the Bucs, and they are now looking for complimentary weapons to put around him so he can take the next step. While I would be happy with either WR in both 2011 and beyond, I'd feel a little better about the upside of Williams." ---- On any given Sunday any fantasy team can beat another, only to still lose Monday night.
James_119913 Membership: Bench Warmer Joined: August 10 Total Posts: 2786 Offline	Post Date: 03/19/11 13:14 Nice to hear others are high on Mike Williams of Tampa Bay. I grabbed him with a 10th road selection and in our league that means I can protect him this year with a 6th round selection. I have seen him going in round 4 in some drafts so with me getting him with a 6th round selection it appears I'm getting good value.
Throwball Heroes_118522 Moderator Membership: Retired Joined: June 10 Total Posts: 14936 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 03/19/11 17:15 I would have to wotk with Mike Williams because he IS the weapon for TB at the WR position. He had a very good year last year with a very consistent, yet inexperienced QB in Josh Freeman and some question marks in the backfield (until Blount took over). I suspect Williams will only get better with Freeman remaining the starter, toss in some more consistency from Benn (who came on at the end of the year) and Stroughter, as well a 2nd year back in Blount and I think Williams is set up for a solid season. Take nothing away from Maclin, he has the experience at QB that will continue to see him put up good numbers. He could be the #1 starter for many other teams, but he has DeSean Jackson at WR and LeSean McCoy at RB to deal with, making him a #3 option at times. Toss in Celek at TE (who Vick rarely uses) and Avant who came on in the playoffs and I think Maclin gets a bit lost in the offense, even though his number say otherwise. I also do not believe Vick will excel in 2011 like he did in 2010., while Freeman can easily improve and better his 2010 numbers. ---- Stephen http://www.the6thfloor.com/category/fantasy-football-2/ "Bringing confusion and contradiction to YOUR post!" "ISIYBITSI" -Russ Bliss
Jeff Coruccini_6 Admin Membership: Starter Joined: September 04 Total Posts: 10059 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 03/22/11 16:30 Toss up but agree with more talent in Philly unless DJAX bolts for a better contract. Then Philly trades Kolb to the Niners for the 7th spot in the draft, they trade down another pick, get an additional pick and use it to grab Julio Jones. ---- Winning isn't everything- its the only thing!
Erick_44330 Membership: Retired Joined: September 07 Total Posts: 1925 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 03/22/11 19:19 So if you had Maclin in a keeper league and you could trade him for Williams, would you do it? ---- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keeper League, PPR, ESPN Standard Scoring Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1FLX(RB,WR), 1TE, 1K, 1D/ST QB's = M. Ryan, N. Foles RB's = D. Murray, D. Martin, Z. Stacy, S. Vereen WR's = W. Welker, V. Jackson, A. Jeffery, R. Cobb, J. Maclin TE's = J. Reed, C. Clay D/ST = Chiefs, Bengals K = M. Crosby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FFS Fantasy Football Team: QB = C. Newton, T. Tebow RB = J. Charles, R. Bush, J. Bell, S. Vereen WR = W. Welker, J. Nelson, J. Gordon, R. Cooper, A. Caldwell, Jacoby Jones TE = D. Walker, C. Fleener D/ST = Bills K = P. Dawson
Russ Bliss_108 Admin Membership: Starter Joined: September 04 Total Posts: 19877 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 03/24/11 14:15 I would. I like both WR's a lot, but think Williams has the ability to step up and become a #1 while Maclin (while in the more prolific passing offense) is one of many weapons the Eagles have. ---- On any given Sunday any fantasy team can beat another, only to still lose Monday night.
James_4852 Moderator Membership: Starter Joined: August 05 Total Posts: 8620 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 03/24/11 20:20 I like Williams to give you more of a steady amount of production most of the year. Maclin will have a huge scoring game then vanish in production the next two.... Plus, the Eagles have major issues on the o-line and I just don't think Vick will last the entire year without getting injured. That will effect Maclin's production to. I like Williams better. James ---- Full time Ghostbuster!
Throwball Heroes_118522 Moderator Membership: Retired Joined: June 10 Total Posts: 14936 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 03/25/11 09:04 I can't say I go into a draft thinking a QB won't make it through a year, unless of course they have history. But I do agree with James in regards to Vick. I don't see him staying healthy all season. Guess we could debate the effectiveness of Kolb as Vick's back up. ---- Stephen http://www.the6thfloor.com/category/fantasy-football-2/ "Bringing confusion and contradiction to YOUR post!" "ISIYBITSI" -Russ Bliss
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