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	Topic: Super Bowl XLIII Hangover Over
Russell_108 Admin Membership: Starter Joined: September 04 Total Posts: 9005 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 02/04/09 11:52 Speaking purely as a fan, it took me a couple of days to get over Super Bowl 43. As the game ended, I thought of the line Bill Murray said towards the beginning of the movie "Stripes" when after he lost his job, car, and girlfriend, he laid down on the ground and said: "And then, depression set in..." But now that I've had a couple of days to get over what was a classic Super Bowl, I have some quick thoughts. -I should have stuck to my original prediction of Steelers 27-24. Fantasy football players know that going with the heart over the head usually gets you into trouble. -While I can't argue with Santonio Holmes being named MVP, a great case could have been made for Ben Roethlisberger. If not for his ability to extend plays by being so elusive in and out of the pocket, the Cards defense would have had 3 more sacks on him on plays where Big Ben made a completion. -The Cardinals should have come out taking shots down the field in the first half instead of waiting until the second half. That dink and dunk attack they used in the first half was infuriating to watch. Credit the Steelers for great coverage, but Warner needed to push it downfield more the first half. -The biggest play of this game that no one talks about was when the Steelers had 1st and 20 from their own 12 yard line with 2:24 left in the 4th Quarter. Ben dropped back to pass and both Darnell Dockett and Chike Okeafor alomst had him sacked inside the 5 yard line, but Ben again proved to be too elusive and managed to scramble out and complete a 14 yard pass to Holmes. Two plays later it was 3rd and 6 instead of 3rd and 28 at the two minute warning. 3rd and 28 from the 4 would have been a much more daunting task for the first down than 3rd and 6 from the 26. *-While there should have been a booth reveiw of the final fumble by Warner, it would have still been ruled a fumble. My problem on that play was that the Cards had 1st and 10 from the Steelers 44 with 15 seconds left. Plenty of time for two plays to the end zone, or one short pass to the sideline and then a shot to the end zone (and maybe enough for a second). But instead of either throwing the ball down the field or throwing it out of bounds, Warner spent 5 seconds running around the pocket. If he had gotten rid of the ball, even on an incompletion out of bounds, he would have had a second shot. Intead he ended up doing one of the three things he couldn't afford to do: fumbling the ball away (the other two were to throw down the middle but not in the end zone, and the last was to take a sack). Warner should have gotten rid of that ball and lived for another play. There was time. Overall, this was a great game. Kurt Warner has provided us football fans with 3 of the best Super Bowl's ever played. I hope he comes back and plays another 2 years. With the right maneuvers, the Cardinals may be able to compete to get back there. I know those players want another chance. ---- On any given Sunday any fantasy team can beat another, only to still lose Monday night.
Michael_8256 Membership: Starter Joined: July 06 Total Posts: 1308 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 02/06/09 07:42 Russ...great insights but one play and one play only really set the Cardinals up to not make it. The interception before the half. Not the 100-yeard retrun of it (which was sickening to watch) but that pick simply can't happen. Where's the fade to Fitz? If they get the TD they take the Steelers heart...if they geta FG they go in tied. Throwing the pick was as bad a play as Warner could've done and in my mind...inexcusable. Holgrem even said at halftime...you have 18-seconds and two timeouts, if the guy you are trying to throw to isn't open/open why are you forcing the ball into double coverage? That's all on Warner, it was a major turing point in the game. They came back, they had a shot yada. yada...but get that TD on the fade to Fitz, and the ball on offense coming out of the halftime and it's a blowout the other way...we'll never know becuase Warner blew it...but my trick knee is never wrong! ---- You can't get a custom fit...in an off the rack world!
RSGFS.com_6 Admin Membership: Starter Joined: September 04 Total Posts: 5718 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 02/07/09 12:34 They had the game in the 4th quarter and thats where they lost it. Heck all Fitz had to do was fall down on the 1 foot line, they run down the clock and win the game. They fired the DC yesterday that should tell you something as to their thoughts as well.
Brian_77630 Membership: Starter Joined: August 08 Total Posts: 165 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 02/09/09 19:04 Was it just me or does anyone else think that Santonio Holmes DIDN'T get both feet in bounds to score the final touchdown of the game? Maybe I just think that because I wanted the Cards to win....but look at the FOOTage. One foot was dragging on the ground by the toes.....just barely mind you...and the other foot...we couldn't see the toes, but the heel was clearly higher than that of his other foot. Unless one of his feet is a couple inches longer than the other one....I don't think it was actually a touchdown! I hope I can see more thoughts on this from you guys, and I actually hope the media looks into it as well...not that it actually matters now, but I'm pretty sure Santonio knows it wasn't a touchdown. I guess it's a good thing Ed Hoculi wasn't involved in this game. I can only imagine the press he would get once the truth on it came out! ---- QBs: Eli Manning, Warner RBs: Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, Michael Turner WR: Fitzgerald, Jennings, Breaston, Brandon Marshall, TE: Antonio Gates, Tony Scheffler K: Matt Bryant DST: Giants, Jets
Russell_108 Admin Membership: Starter Joined: September 04 Total Posts: 9005 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 02/11/09 10:58 I've seen it from many different angles, and to me, both at the time and after seeing the replays, I believe it was a catch and the right call was made. But let's face it. There have been blown calls all throughout the history of sports. Calls that were obviously wrong. And the fact remains that you can't go back and change them. You accept, and move on. The Cardinals had their chances in Super Bowl 43. he interception that should never have been returned for a TD at the end of the first half proved to be a killer. If Warner had thrown the fade instead of the slant; if it had been incomplete and the Cards kicked a FG. Or if they tackled Harrison before he got the end zone. All of those things would have had an impact. But bottom line is that the Cards had their chances, and they lost the game. I could go over many different plays and specific times during the game that opportunities were lost, but it doesn't change the fact that if you have to rely on officiating being perfect, you clearly didn't win the game. I congratulate the Steelers for having what it takes to make a championship drive when they had to. I don't place as much blame on Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie as others as on some of the plays, he released Holmes to the safety, who then didn't make the play. It was a great run by the Cardinals, but to spend time second guessing whether Holmes foot was down, or was a millimeter off the ground takes away from what was yet another of 3 exciting Super Bowls Kurt Warner has played in. ---- On any given Sunday any fantasy team can beat another, only to still lose Monday night.
Brian_77630 Membership: Starter Joined: August 08 Total Posts: 165 Favorite Team: Offline	Post Date: 02/11/09 19:37 Well said, Russ. It doesn't matter so much really. Even if it wasn't a catch as governed by the rule book, there was definitely inconclusive evidence to overturn the call. It's also nice to have some aspects of human error still involved in the game, or any game for that matter. It helps things get exciting some times! I guess I probbaly place less blame on Rodgers-Cromartie than others....but probably more than you...He had a couple great plays early in the game, but then seemed to get considerably worse. Kudos tot he Steelers for targetting him. I think he was the weakest link in the Cards D. Overall, a great game...I'm just happy the Patriots didn't win/play :D Maybe next year I'll have the misfortune of cheering against them for the big game! Hopefully Warner will stay in Arizona...what do you think will happen with him? I haven't been paying much attention to anything football lately... ---- QBs: Eli Manning, Warner RBs: Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, Michael Turner WR: Fitzgerald, Jennings, Breaston, Brandon Marshall, TE: Antonio Gates, Tony Scheffler K: Matt Bryant DST: Giants, Jets
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