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Topic: Raw Data vs. Rounded Data Options
 john_37848
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Post Date: 06/21/09 16:03
Hey guys, just signed up for another season and noticed the draft analyzer now has 2 options that give you different rankings.  Please explain the difference between the 'run analyzer' and the 'run raw data analyzer' options.  LIONS!
 Russ Bliss_108
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Post Date: 06/23/09 13:44
John:
 
Good question! The difference between the two is that the raw data isn't rounded.
 
For example, Let's say the if system has run a game simulation and has projected Tom Brady for: 
23.84 completions
34.29 attempts
266.78 yards
2.51 TD's
0.62 int's
 
In the original version of the Draft Analyzer it would round those numbers to the nearest whole number so the projection would read:
 
24 completions
34 attempts
267 yards
3 TD's
1 INT
 
And when it would start figuring the estimated points scored via whatever scoring system you are using, it would use these rounded numbers. (If pass TD's are worth 6 points then 3 TD's multiplied by 6 pts per passing TD = 18 points; If you get 1 point for every 20 passing yards then 267 divided by 20 = 13 points; -2 for every interception would = -2; meaning Brady would be projected to score 29 points (18+13-2=29).
 
In the raw data calculation, all fractions stay as fractions. So the calcualtion would be:
 
266.78 divided by 20 = 13.339
2.51 TD's x 6 = 15.06
0.62 INT's x 2 = 1.24
 
13.339 + 15.06 - 1.24 = 27.159 projected points.
 
It seems like a small difference but the constant rounding can add up throughout 16 games. Espeically when compared against other players.
 
We were seeing many scenarios where a guy with fewer yards but 1.51 TD's was being ranked ahead of another player who had more yards, but checked in with a 1.48 projected TD's. Because of the rounding process, the guy with 1.51 was getting an extra full 6 points as it rounded to 2 over the guy with 1.48 as that rounds to 1. The difference between them was only 0.03, but it made a significant difference in projected points because of the rounding. And since nobody can really throw for 2.51 TD's we wanted to show the whole numbers in our orginial version.
 
However, after careful consideration, we decided to give everyone the option to see the actual raw calculation numbers and sort by them as well.  
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 john_37848
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Post Date: 06/24/09 14:10
So on draft night why would I use the analyzer?  If I want the more accurate statistical projections, it seems like I would want to use the raw data analyzer.  When comparing the two analyzers, each gives a significantly different draft and tier position for each player. I thought they would be fairly close but not really.  Can you think of a reason why not go exclusively with the raw data analyzer?  LIONS!
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Post Date: 06/25/09 10:11
I haven't noticed a big difference between the results of the two. There have been subtle differences, but when I look at the tier sheets created by both using the same scoring system, I don't see big differences in the players in each tier. More often it is the ranking position's of players within a tier that has changed most.
 
But to get back to why we give the option of both, it really is a matter of preference. The original draft analyzer (and the raw data sorting has been incorporated into our lineup and trade analyzer's too) has proven itself as being an elite tool for providing fantasy football help in drafting. But, like anything, it can be improved upon, and we think this enhancement should be an improvement. But because there are some people who will resist wrapping their imaginiations around projections using decimal numbers instead of whole numbers (after all, it's much easier to understand 2 TD's than it is 2.34 TD's) we decided to give subscribers the option.
 
Personally, I agree with you and will be using the raw data version myself in all my leagues. I think it will really have the greatest impact on the weekly power rankings myself and can't wait to do a comparative study between the two after the season is over.
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 john_37848
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Post Date: 06/25/09 14:28
Russ, thanks for the clarification and explanations of each analyzer.  I'm also going to lean on the raw data analyzer.  It looks like a logical improvement.  Thank for the meaningful number crunching.  LIONS!
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Post Date: 07/16/09 14:36
Thank you for explaining this to me. This is my first year using this but going into my 4th year in fantasy football. I always finsh top 4 but haven't won the league yet. I hope to change that this year with the draft analyzer.
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Post Date: 07/16/09 18:40
Rob- we will  do everything we can to help you win, thats what this site is all about. God luck and welcome aboard.
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 Russ Bliss_108
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Post Date: 07/18/09 05:58
Welcome aboard Rob! Let's get you that championship this season.
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Post Date: 08/27/09 19:54
i am looking for a program where you enter who all has been drafted and it gives you statistily who you BEST pick is. Is that what this program does?
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Post Date: 08/28/09 12:51
There is a "Remove Player" button on the draft analyzer results page that will grey out any player who has been drafted. Just click on the check box to the far left of the corresponding player and then click Remove Player. You can also sort the board by position if you're looking to draft a specific position and then you scroll up and down thru each position and see who the highest rated player left available to you is.
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